MarlaMiller: 0:35

Welcome back to Open-Minded Healing. Today we'll be talking about how to process trauma and heal from chronic stress, burnout, or emotional disconnection. My guest, Tingting Guan, is a trauma-informed embodiment teacher and the founder of the Guan Jing Method, which is a somatic, sound-infused movement practice that blends Chinese medicine, martial arts philosophy, and nervous system science. Her work guides people back to their highest alignment by helping them move through stored emotion and awaken their body's innate intelligence. Among other things, today we'll be discussing why somatic embodiment is the missing link in emotional healing, and also talk about small actions that you can take to shift your energy in seconds. Welcome,

TingTingGuan: 1:31

Ting Ting. Thank you so much for having me.

MarlaMiller: 1:35

Well, there's been a lot more out in the open now about trauma and different ways to sort of not just tackle it, but heal it. And a lot of it is through this energetic type of work. So this is good timing for this kind of a talk. And I'm really excited to get into this and learn your particular method for dealing with trauma and chronic stress and other things as well. But before we get into the Guangjing Method, what brought you into this work? And then we can get into how you developed the method. So in your own personal life, what created an interest in this topic?

TingTingGuan: 2:25

You know, I grew up with a very hard childhood. I was coming from China and both my parents were very poor. They were poor farmers. They literally lived out of mud and straw built huts and they wanted a new life in America. And so when I moved to America, it was difficult to understand the way of how Americans lived because I was a little girl. I only spoke Chinese. All of a sudden I got thrown into intercity Philadelphia. And within that, within the... family constructs. I had a lot of conflicts between my mother and my father, my mother and myself, and they ended up splitting. She took me away from my father, so I didn't see him for almost 10 years. I grew up in an abusive household verbally and physically. And then I didn't know how to process all of that. And so from the ages of, I would say, around three until 17 I was dealing with a lot of disorder and abuse from the family standpoint. I didn't understand how it was actually reflecting in my everyday life until I noticed that I would have eating disorders. I would be irrationally angry at certain people for no reason. I was constantly being judgmental of not only other people but myself. I found myself really unhappy for a my young adult life, like in my 20s to my early 30s. And it brought me to a moment where I always wondered, what was I lacking? Why is it that all these people seem confident and happy and put together and sure of themselves? And why was I not one of those people? And so instead of being in that victim mentality that I had been operating on, I decided to to, you know, like go into yoga class, go and try meditation. And little by little, I was realizing, oh my gosh, I can actually shift my reality by taking the responsibility off of other people, making me feel a certain way into the responsibility of I can choose whatever I want to choose with how I react to things or how I respond to things and what I show up for, how I show up for myself. So a lot of the patterns that I learned very early on was just forms of self-sabotage, betrayal, denial, and displaced anger. And so through the beginning work of yoga and meditation, that's when I learned how to redirect that into something more self-aware and more focused. And so that was the beginning of a long journey. And then that's how Guanjing started to form and evolve was moving from yoga, which was a more masculine-based movement, into something that is more feminine and embodied and into something that I felt that was coming through in my own body.

MarlaMiller: 5:50

That's interesting to think of yoga as the more masculine movements because I hadn't thought of it that way. So when you talk about doing something more feminine and embodying that, what type of movements compared to yoga would that be?

TingTingGuan: 6:13

Yeah. So if you think about it, if we want to talk about masculine versus feminine, and I'm not saying that in terms of this is what Men do, and this is what women do, right? I think when we think about masculinity in terms of movement, it's more structured. It's more rigid. It can be explosive. It can be intense. It can be very, the pelvis is tucked under. There's a kind of a defensiveness to it, right? Just like yoga, martial arts, qigong, calisthenics, strength training. These are all very masculine forms of movement comparatively to something like belly dancing, or something like hula dancing. And so feminine movement is embodying spirals, is embodying circular movements, is embodying more pelvic rotations, is embodying more depth of feeling with the emotions that are coming through as you're moving. And so guanjing was birthed from that place of inviting yourself to connect to whatever emotion that you're feeling. And in Evoking it through a spiraling shape led by your breath, led by a visualization of that energy getting transformed because energy can neither be created nor destroyed, right? It can only be transformed. So if we have a lot of anger, we're just not going to destroy the anger. It doesn't work like that. We need to transform it into something else. And so when we're doing movement through the power of our breath, our breath is one of the most incredible vehicles for which new energy can be created. energy can enter into the body. Then we begin to embody that more feminine aspect of movement, which is dancing with that energy that might even feel a little bit uncomfortable, such as grief or sorrow, right? But we learn how to dance with it and we learn how to bring renewed vitality and transform it into renewed vitality rather than just holding onto it or pushing it down or looking away from it.

MarlaMiller: 8:18

So as you were going through this like you said you experienced all this trauma as a child and so by doing the yoga and the meditation you're becoming more aware and learning to transmute that energy and not see yourself as a victim or what was your view at that point like as you start to evolve through those practices what are you thinking

TingTingGuan: 8:49

so I think one of the the biggest things that you can get. And that's not just saying for yoga. I think it's for anything that you decide to show up for on a consistent basis. I think consistency is very underrated. People want the quick fix right now, right? That's why going shopping is so addictive and all these sort of like instant gratifications, like, oh, I can just be another person in just this one moment with this quick purchase, right? This is sort of the consumerist society. And what I find, whether that's through yoga, through strength training, through guanjing, is that when you decide to show up for yourself on a consistent basis and challenge your own belief system of what you're capable of physically, you begin to trust yourself more. And the more that you trust yourself, then you start to trust your decisions. You start to trust your intuition. You start to trust who you decide to bring into your inner circle. You decide you can trust how you want to create your world. And so you naturally become a more confident person because you repeatedly are showing up for yourself and showing yourself that you have the capacity to go beyond the current state. And I think that is one of the most powerful things about when we go into any sort of practice, right? It's not just one or the other. Everyone finds some sort of healing within the constructs of what they are passionate about, whether that's kickboxing or martial arts or hula or belly dancing, right? When you challenge yourself and you are like, oh my God, wow, I learned this new thing. It's so cool. You start to remember that you are the co-creator of your reality. And I think that is the most powerful point and part of that consistency. So

MarlaMiller: 10:45

you keep challenging the stories that other people have told you or that you've told yourself. And expanding that and with consistency, like you said, then you start to expand in a variety of ways, it sounds like, mentally and physically.

TingTingGuan: 10:59

Yes, yes. And because you're creating a new patterning of behavior, you're creating a new energy pathway. Like if we had a record player, right, and you wanted to play that same song over and over again, the needle creates a deeper groove within that record. Well, we're learning how to expand and play the entire playlist of our lives into the full capacity when we decide, okay, you know what? I'm going to try something new. I'm going to push myself. I'm going to do something that scares me a little bit. And even if it's not scary in a physical way, but maybe it's a scary in an energetic way or in a perspective way of like how you view yourself, it seeps into so many different layers of your life, how attractive you think you are, how much money you think you can make, right? How much joy you think that you're allowed to have in your life so many people live their lives working nine to five jobs on complete autopilot you know thinking that they need to work really hard to be able to make a little bit of money so that they can go spend it all on the weekends on something right just to leave them depleted and exhausted and then they think that they need a bunch of caffeine and going out to the clubs or whatever that keep them imprisoned into the same like system and cycle where you can say, you know what? I deserve to live a beautiful life. I deserve to have beautiful experiences. I deserve to have relationships that really cherish me. And I think relationships are a huge reflection on where your energy is at and how much you value yourself because people only treat you the way that you treat yourself, right? And so that's why things like movement is so important because it forces you to embody strength and embody energy. And it forces you to step outside of that comfort zone into the unknown territories of what you, again, think you're capable of.

MarlaMiller: 13:07

So it's not just like doing yoga or it has to be a particular thing. It's more about the expansion, like doing something that expands

TingTingGuan: 13:16

you. Walking down the street and seeing the rays of sunlight beam through the leaves, you know, that is a spiritual experience because you're connecting to the energy of expansiveness, to the energy that pervades all of life, right? And so when we step outside of our comfort zone, we're able to have a new perspective. And that's the most important thing, shifting our perspective into something greater, into something that supports So as

MarlaMiller: 14:10

far as you moving through that trauma and transmuting it into something more healing and helpful, was there something else like beyond the yoga and the meditation? What other things were you doing or realizing to transmute this trauma?

TingTingGuan: 14:37

I felt, I found incredible revelations, right? And after a while, I was hosting meditation retreats and deep in the yogic world, and I fully identified myself as a yogic teacher. And when I moved to Los Angeles, I figured, oh, I can just transition my business into LA. And that's when it fell flat on its butt. And I couldn't find any clients. I, yoga studios, weren't even hiring me. It was all about who you knew, right? And how big of an influencer you are and all that kind of stuff. And I couldn't even find a job as a waitress. And I was getting really nervous because my bank account, you know, living in LA, your bank account goes down really quick just from one grocery shop or one night out to dinner. And I started getting incredibly depressed because I had so solidified my identity as a meditation practitioner and teacher and as a yoga facilitator. And I figured I went to one of the second biggest depression of my life where I was actually contemplating suicide because I figured, hey, what is my purpose? What is the point of me being here if there's yoga teachers everywhere helping people, if there's already tons of meditation teachers, if there's already tons of healers, and clearly I'm not desired or needed? What is my purpose? Why am I even here? And when I got into that state of deep depression and I had nothing to do because I had no job, I had all this free time. And I remember sitting underneath some oak trees. I lived in Topanga Canyon at that time. And I lost my desire to meditate or practice yoga. And I would just close my eyes and I would feel the overwhelming amount of frustration and pressure on my body of needing to make money to simply exist, right? You need money to buy food. You need money to pay bills. You need money to rent a car. And it was just like, I just felt it compressing and compressing and compressing in my body. And I remember I went into this almost like medicine-like state where I just started swirling my body and deepening my breath and just finding some way to try to to transmute this enormous amount of pressure. And after I did this movement, I felt a lot better and I felt more trust in the universe and I felt more calm and grounded and being like, okay, don't worry, you're okay. And so I decided to practice this at the beach and at the park. And that's when it got really interesting because I would just be minding my own business with my eyes closed, going totally internal, not caring. I didn't care what people thought. And I didn't think what I was doing was... inappropriate or too strange, right? I was just kind of moving and keeping my eyes closed. But then when I opened my eyes, every single time I had not one, but like anywhere from five to 10 people standing there staring at me going, oh my God, what are you doing? Is that yoga? Is it Qigong? Is that dance? Like, how do I learn? And it was laughable how much people asked about it every single time that I did it in public. It was just, I was I was amazed. And of course, I'm like looking up at the universe going, I hear you universe, clearly you're giving me a sign that this is who I should share. But at that time, I had no idea what I was doing. And so that's where Guanjing was actually birthed because I was like, okay, people want this, but what do they want from me just transmuting my own pain and frustration? And so I started to work backwards and I would film myself doing the sessions and I would realize, oh, I'm doing this movement repeatedly. I'm doing that movement repeatedly. And when I do this movement or that movement, I'm visualizing that the energy is doing this. Okay, got it. So then that's when I started making my first, what they're called as guanjing basic form. So they're essentially simple movements that you can practice over and over again that have a visualization of that energy continuously getting renewed in a And then you can link each basic form with another basic form to dance with the energy. And so that's essentially what we were doing in Guangjing is utilizing spiraling circular shapes, learning how to breathe with it and dance with it, and then use that energy to dance into the next energy and into the next basic form. Wow.

MarlaMiller: 19:29

So that's so interesting. Well, first of all, that you're in LA and it's something that drew attention. I mean, because there's a People are always doing a lot of different things and it's a very creative place. So it's interesting that you drew that to you through this movement on the beach. I'm just curious what it kind of looked like in that moment. Like, were you sitting down and doing it or you were standing up and doing these motions?

TingTingGuan: 19:58

It was both. I was on all fours. I was on my knees. I was coming up to stand and I was simply like, allowing the energy to carry me and to direct where it's it wanted to go and you know each time was a little different but now that we are guanjing has been in the works for now about four and a half years we're in the middle of hosting our second teacher training and so now it's more structured and there is certain movements that you create and there's a certain sequence so essentially if you take a guanjing method class you would always start out with your breath and always connecting to how you're feeling. So just allowing the breath to sort of analyze and get a data analysis of your emotions, of your state of mind, and actually how deeply are you breathing? How present are you in your body? And then we do a few warmups and then we get into the basic form movements. And then we end with a chi cultivation exercise where we're bringing all that energy back into the center, whether that's our heart, whether that's our pelvis, whether that's our seat of intuition in in this third eye and so that's now how the structure of guanjing classes go that's

MarlaMiller: 21:14

amazing so when you first did this you were kind of in a meditative state it sounds like and just being led with your eyes closed just intuitively or getting this download from the quantum field or from the divine so that's fascinating and it's amazing that it happened at such a heavy place in your life when you felt so weighed down that that came to you? So you, what created videos and put it out there online or how did that go about and what was the response?

TingTingGuan: 21:53

Yeah. So I ended up creating my first course, which was called Enter the Qi and it's still available in the Guangjing membership online. And, and after I created this course, you know, during the creation of it, I finally found on a job as a waitress because, you know, I still had to somehow pay the bills. And I had been working as a waitress for a few months that allowed me to save enough money to travel. And I told this restaurant, hey, I want to travel for like three months. And they said, well, we're going to have to let you go because it's the busiest time of the year. If you're here, you need to be here. And I was like, okay, well, I'm going to go. And part of me was really afraid to let go of this job because that meant that I would have to actually have to start making money with my course. And so I met my friend in Mexico, in Tulum. I'd never been there before. And we're at these stores. And I had a whole budget planned in my head of how I was going to make sure my money would go to the length of time and even more when I got back. And so I had a very frugal budget. And we were in these stores in Tulum. And she's like, oh, try on this outfit. Try on this gold. Try this on. Try that on. And before you know it, I was wearing an you know, all over my body. And she's like, you should get this. And I remember thinking, are you kidding me? Like, this is so irresponsible. There's no way that I can do that. And she's looking at me and she goes, well, how do you feel when you're wearing this? And I was like, I feel amazing. And she goes, well, then you definitely should get it. And so I took her advice and I bought all these things and I went to Costa Rica after words, in my head, I was furious at myself. Like, how can you be so irresponsible with your money? Like, what are you doing buying gold? You have no business buying these silk outfits or anything like that. And I was like, well, it's too late now to return. I'm in Costa Rica now. So my other friend was like, oh, there's these waterfalls. Let me film you dancing and practicing guanjing in front of them. And so I decided, I was like, okay, have all this new stuff on, might as well do it. And at that time, my Instagram following, I only had maybe like a thousand people who are all my friends. And I remember not thinking anything of it being like, oh, I'd probably get like a few likes here and there. But I did this dance with the outfit in front of these waterfalls. And then I wrote something about, hey, if you want to learn how to dance with Chi energy, you can purchase my course I just launched. It was actually two days before my birthday when I posted this. And I went to bed and I woke up to hundreds of messages from people all over of the world. My post went viral. People were like, oh my gosh, you're the reincarnation of Kuan Yin. Oh my God, the way you move energy. It was wild. And so I started getting, it was like hundreds of thousands of likes and all these shares and all this stuff. And then I looked at my course and it was like, this person purchased like another course purchase and it was continuous. And I just stood there in complete shock. And what is so ironic about that is that the company that I bought the clothing from and the company that I bought the jewelry from saw it and was like, oh my God, we want you to do more stuff. And then just end up sending me a bunch of free clothes and jewelry anyway. And so I think that the lesson here is believe in your worth, right? Believe in your value. Not everyone's meant to buy golden jewelry, but if you want to be a photographer, buy the nice camera, buy the lens that you want, right? If you want to work as like a chocolatier, you know, buy that high quality cacao, buy that mixture you've been wanting, buy the things and in the quality and in the energy that are the essence of what you truly are. And it will come back to you tenfold. That is such a

MarlaMiller: 25:54

great story of how that works, of how you raise that frequency and vibration to match what you truly wanted and how that manifests. manifested and continued to manifest that. I love how you imbibed what you wanted to be and then how everyone else saw it, including those stores that ended up giving you all those clothes. That's awesome. So let's go back to the trauma that you had as a child. And how was this all transformational? I mean, you were transforming the energy with the movement, right? With the particular types of movement and moving the energy in your body and then it manifested I won't say a new life a new perspective a new version of yourself so would you say that the healing came from that actual physical movement along with the visualization you were having as you were doing it that that is what shifted your trauma into something else

TingTingGuan: 27:03

yeah I think a little bit of everything I think the biggest shift shift came from being able to realize those patterns of behavior right and notice when you are in a victim mentality versus when you are in like abundance and gratitude and noticing the frequency of how you're thinking is the biggest thing and from there you can shift it if you are in a more, I wouldn't even say negative, I would say just something more dull, right? Like that dullness that you have for life or that dullness that you have for the belief of yourself and that manifests in sadness or doubt or uncertainty. And then when we decide to choose to brighten that, we're not only brightening that, the emotion. We're brightening our soul's vibration and that can be exponentially expedited through movement because movement requires embodiment.

MarlaMiller: 28:26

So I definitely want to get to why you think somatic embodiment is that missing link in emotional healing. Maybe why people aren't finding the healing they're looking for with talk therapy or something like that.

TingTingGuan: 28:42

Because talk therapy is all about your mind. You might be connecting with your emotions in certain ways, but it's led by the mind. And the mind is like a untrained dog. It likes to just think about things randomly and maul over things and chew on things, right? If you try to lead your life only through the mind, you're going to be exhausted. And if you try to transmute emotion through thinking that's not what emotions are right emotions are energy in motion and what does our body do it moves it is energy in motion as well if you look at any eastern philosophy our body is the manifestation of our unconscious mind and so our trauma actually lives inside certain parts of our body I can't even count the amount of times when I was facilitating yoga teacher trainings where we would be moving and opening our heart space, and all of a sudden, four people in the room just burst into tears. Or I had one time, a woman that I was lengthening her quadriceps, her thigh, she just burst into uncontrollable laughter. And it was because of the anxiety that was tense that was held in her thigh, and it lived there. And emotions live in all different parts of our body. There can be general, I guess, roadmaps of where certain things are like in Chinese medicine, grief lives in the lungs, anger lives in our liver, that kind of stuff. But overall, most people hold tension, right? Tension is that holding of the energy and motion of our emotion in our pelvis, in our heart space, in our chest, and in the back of our neck and in our shoulders, and also in our jaw. We can hold a lot of tension in our jaw, clenching in our jaw. And so how would talk therapy ever get to this part, right? We have to move our bodies. And especially in a world led by mental thinking, have you ever noticed, you know, just like the forward head posture of people looking at their cell phones, or you see people with this forward head posture of their nose and their chin jutting out when they're walking, it's because their mind is moving faster than their body is able to catch up with. And all of the disorder and all of the chaos and all of the war, right, is from mental thought. It's from strategy. It's from gaining something. Whereas if we drop down that energy into our heart, if we drop that energy down into the lower dantian, into our pelvis, into the womb space, right, we're going to be leading in a much different way from a much different place. And that's why movement is so, so So important because it reminds us that we have a body, that we're human, that we have pain, that we have fears, that we have things to transform, challenges to be able to face that just don't come from the fighting mentally, but surrendering and relaxing physically so that that energy can have a space to move.

MarlaMiller: 32:09

Yeah. So the mind can totally take over and argue a certain point. It's always trying to find answers, but in a very strong analytical way. I know personally what takes me out of that is when I drop that all the way, like through meditation or music really brings me out of the headspace into the heart. But what are some actions that people can take that are simple that they could do at any time to shift that energy?

TingTingGuan: 32:43

So many different ones. So for my suggestion for probably most people is that they're going to want to drop their energy from the mental into deeper into their body. So I would just tell someone, put your hands on your heart and just take three deep breaths into your heart space and feeling the hand expanding and warming. And then you can even begin to like gyrate the pelvis and begin to roll and find some spirals with the spine that allow that stuck energy from between the shoulder blades, between the pelvis, between the heart and the rib cage begin to open and expand. And you can do this in the car, you know, just three deep breaths here. A lot of times things get stuck right underneath the intercostal muscles, right underneath the rib cage or the diaphragm. So anything, any type of lateral side stretching, rolling the head out, completely allowing the head and neck to relax. So these spiraling movements from the head, the rib cage and the pelvis are going to help unlock a lot of stuff. You can be sitting on an airplane doing this. You can be in the car. You can be, I like to just get weird. I like to do this at the grocery store, you know, wherever, because you know what? One of the biggest things I noticed, especially during when COVID was happening, was that the amount of fear that people had of being abnormal was crazy. It was intense. And so when you start to move in public, when you're dancing, when you're laughing, when you're just freely expressing yourself, it reminds people that it's okay to do that. It's okay to stretch, right? My favorite thing to do is when I'm at the airport waiting for a flight and I see like all the little kids are playing and acting weird and running around and all the adults are just sitting there slouched over looking at their phones. And I'd rather be with the little kids. So I get low, I get down, I'm crawling with them, I'm laughing with them and people are looking at me Why are you doing that? And it's like, because I can, because this is way more fun than just sitting on a chair, staring at my phone. And so any moment that you feel this urge to stretch or dance or laugh, do that. We've been so conditioned to be normal that it has been the cause of so much disease and unhappiness. And the reality is, is it doesn't matter if you're a child or an adult. The body requires movement to be healthy and happy. I

MarlaMiller: 35:17

know it is interesting how go from that state of being a child and feeling such freedom, you know, in our own bodies or running around in a costume or whatever it is, like you don't care at all. And you are the most free and the most healthy in general to, like you said, being so stagnant and that creativity is blocked and just the movement and the emotions. It's like everything comes to a halt, you know, when our physical body is so stagnant and our mind is telling us like, don't do that. Don't be that. So I love that, that you interact with the kids in that way. So what are some other actions people can take, little simple routines? Like what if you do work at a computer all day or what other things would you suggest?

TingTingGuan: 36:12

Yeah, especially for people who are sitting, I always recommend if they can to stand up and do the opposite of sitting. So instead of being seated and having the front body going towards the thigh, right, because that's what happens when you're seated, you stand up and you push your pelvis and tailbone forward to lengthen the psoads and then squeeze your shoulder blades together, lift the heart space up towards the sky and do the opposite and kind of do a big big backbend inhaling, and then you can come back and come back to your seat again. It's really important to take those moments to do the opposite movement of what you've been chronically in. And a lot of times there's so many other alternatives like a standing desk or a medicine ball instead of a chair and that kind of stuff. But sometimes people don't have the ability to get a standing desk. So it's important to always take these moments and these breaks, even if it is one or two minutes or even coming up to stand and doing a few jumping squats, like maybe five seconds of jumping squats, deep, deep, full breaths. In any case, the biggest way to bring yourself back into your body and feeling into how your body is, is through deep breaths. Closing the eyes, three deep breaths will really reset your system.

MarlaMiller: 37:36

That's good. Yeah, good information.

TingTingGuan: 38:05

Mm-hmm. sleep. I've had students who said that they were really stuck in their business and they didn't know how to move forward. And because of doing the movement practice and the training and the visualizations of the energy, they now have a fully thriving business. And ever since they finished the course with me, it has gone and scaled 10X. I've had people tell me that it's helped heal their wounding of feeling a loss of feeling feminine. So what would women are saying that they're feeling much more feminine and they're feeling more sexy in their bodies. I've had people who said that they were never able to have enough energy to go surfing or running. And because of the movement, they were able to bring back more energy into their system. And she's like, oh my gosh, for the first time in 10 years, I'm able to go surfing again, which is crazy because it does require a lot of energy exertion to surf. And the lists go on. There's a lot of people healing from grief. I've had people who are recovering from cancer who have found the movements incredibly healing and so every time it brings tears to my eyes because i don't ask them for these updates right they send me messages on instagram or they send me these emails saying how this movement has transformed them and it really goes to show that again yes i shared the practice but i didn't heal them they healed themselves because they showed up for themselves because of the consistency consistency for showing up for themselves because they believe that there is something more to life than suffering. And when a doctor says that they're not going to walk, they pushed that boundary and they tested it. And that is the biggest lesson of all is can we create and visualize a life that is thriving and healthy and vibrant and full of prosperity? And for What amazing

MarlaMiller: 40:41

examples. That's fantastic. Well, so I have three questions I like to ask. So when you were going through or coming out of the trauma, what was the biggest obstacle?

TingTingGuan: 40:56

The biggest obstacle was consistently remembering that I'm something greater than that trauma. because it definitely takes a moment, right? If you have been living with a negative attitude, that's the easiest route because that's the pathway you created, right? That's the neural pathway, energetic pathway that you've created. And so creating a new pathway is going to take work. And so that was the biggest challenge was believing in myself, believing that I was something outside of this and consistently believing in that, consistently making choices Yeah, absolutely. Healing is definitely not linear. And just saying, okay, let's try again. Let's try again. Let's try again. Let's show up more. Let's move more. Let's energetically infuse my body with that vibration more. And this is why Guanjing is such a potent practice specifically for that because the meditations infuse your body. And I often say this in my practices, visualize every cell of your body. body and every layer of your mind vibrating with vitality, vibrating with pure light, vibrating with the energy of prosperity. Feel that rippling out in all directions. And when you practice the guanjing and when you utilize that and once a day, right, it sends that signal out. It's almost like a radar and it shares that vibration and it begins to attract different circumstances, different situations. Yeah. What was

MarlaMiller: 43:10

the biggest lesson through all of that healing time?

TingTingGuan: 43:16

That everything is in perfect timing. That was the biggest lesson that you are never behind. You're never forgotten. You're never lost because it's simply a reflection of your journey. And I think that that lesson can be most greatly mirrored especially at least for me through romantic relationships like why isn't my person showing up why am I the one that doesn't have like you know this beautiful husband or this beautiful life with a family yet you know why am I almost 40 years old and I don't have that and I think that lesson comes from because it's all in perfect timing like you cannot rush this life. You cannot rush the meeting of someone or the success that you see in your life. It's all unfolding before you. And the more that you resist where you are, the more pain you're going to experience because you're not accepting of where you are. But the more that you accept where you are, and it's so funny because it actually recently happened to me. I had been single for a long time and there was a moment where I was like, where's my person? I have everything else. And then literally this past summer, I was so I was so happy being by myself. I was just frolicking and traveling to Europe. And I was like, I love this. Every morning I could just do my own morning routine and have this whole thing. And the moment that I wasn't thinking about the person, right, that's when they show up. And so that's the same with anything that you want in life. Like the moment that you're like not worried about it anymore, it just happens.

MarlaMiller: 44:59

Yeah, so true. Yeah, because if you're in that worried state about any particular area of your life, That's a lower frequency of worry. So what is the kindest thing someone did for you throughout that time of healing?

TingTingGuan: 45:16

I would say it was not just one person, but it was my ex-partner, it was my closest friends, which they believed in me throughout the worst parts of me. They believed in me more than I believed in myself. And they were so supportive, you know? And so I think it's really important to build relationships with people that believe in you. Like even when you are your worst self. Someone's like, no, you are incredible. Don't worry about this, right? Because it's just, when you have that sort of support through community or through relationships, they hold you. It's like a warm blanket. It's like when you're crying and sat in the corner, someone gives you a nice blanket and gives you a little hug. It's super supportive. Can they cry the tears out for you? Absolutely not. Can they change your Absolutely not. It's up to you to do that. In the words of Buddha, no one can save us but ourselves. No one can and no one may. We ourselves must walk the path. But the path is always nice when someone hands us a blanket and a hot cup of tea in the middle of it.

MarlaMiller: 46:37

Yeah, that's a nice note to end on. I love that. Well, where can people find you and find your program?

TingTingGuan: 46:46

So you can try the free class. It's in guanjingmethod.com. There is also Instagram I have, which is guanjingmethod. I also have a personal page, one with soul. And there are monthly memberships where they can enroll and there's on-demand classes and courses at any length of time with whether you're looking for something more restorative and soft or wanting something more energizing and revitalizing. And I also have the upcoming trainings and our next training is in March. We're in the middle of the teacher training right now, but the next like eight week immersion is in March so that you can find it all there. So if you want to spell that for people. Yes. Guanjing, G-U-A-N-J-I-N-G method.

MarlaMiller: 47:39

Awesome. So do you find the people that are learning to be instructors, where are they using that?

TingTingGuan: 47:46

A lot of people who have graduated and from the teacher training are infusing it with a lot of their own practices. I have a woman who is hosting tea ceremonies that are infusing it with movement. I have someone else who is creating an off-grid retreat center that she's offering it there. I have people who are massage therapists. I have a few right now who are in the middle. There's actually two who are hairdressers who are wanting to go into this movement I have actually four Chinese medicine practitioners who are wanting to also add that into their practice as a way of treatment therapy. That's great. Yeah.

MarlaMiller: 48:31

So how long is that, by the way, to learn to teach it?

TingTingGuan: 48:36

So it's going to be the online training is four months long. We meet one time a week. Each lesson is three hours long. And then it comes with movement homeworks. So they would send in their homework weekly for me to personally one-on-one reflect back any adjustments they need on their bodies. And then after that, we go to a retreat for a week in January. So they have like two months to integrate it. And then the retreat is more in-person. It's all about hands-on adjustments. It's about face mapping and understanding diagnosis of someone and treatment through the And then I also, after that, they can also continue to teach on the online platform. So people who become certified have the opportunity to add in their own personal videos that they can share with the online members.

MarlaMiller: 49:33

That's great. Sounds so interesting. So beneficial to be able to help people in that way. Well, thank you so much for coming on and sharing all All of this wisdom, it's really interesting. Like I said, it's always great to hear how people can transmute that trauma into a healthier, happier life. Thank you so much.

TingTingGuan: 50:04

You're welcome. Thank you so much for having me.